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Posted on: January 10, 2010 2:54 pm
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Alomar's First Ballot Omission is No Surpise

The big name free agents have all but settled down in their new homes at this point in the off-season, and in the six-week intermission before pitchers and catchers begin to report for spring training, the biggest story is the results of the annual Hall of Fame voting. This year’s class is a small one, with the inductees being manager Whitey Herzog and umpire Doug Harvey along with the only member voted in by the Baseball Writers’ Association of America, Andre Dawson.

Dawson was elected in his ninth year of eligibility out of a possible 15, while the Veterans Committee selected Herzog and Harvey last month.

No one is debating these selections, but as always, the discussion centers on those who were left out.

The snub of second baseman Roberto Alomar left many puzzled. There were 539 voters this year, and with 75 percent the measure to be inducted, Alomar’s appearance on 73.7 percent of the ballots means that he missed by about eight votes.

Why did Alomar not make it to the Hall? It is certainly not because the BBWAA believes that he does not be there, as I for one have yet to find any voter come out and say that the reason why Alomar was left off of his/her respective ballot is because Alomar does not deserves to be there.

Let me take a break to ask me this question: What do Ted Williams, Stan Musial, Sandy Koufax, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron and Nolan Ryan all have in common? They are all part of a group of 39 select major league baseball players who were all elected to the Hall of Fame by means of the writers’ ballot.

Alomar was left off of the ballot because he did not deserve to be a first ballot Hall of Famer. This is no insult to Alomar, but he does not deserve to be in the conversation with those above names, and certainly the other first ballot inductees are no slouch either. That list of 39 does an excellent job of representing the best players in baseball who began playing by 1940.

Why does the Hall give a player 15 years of eligibility to remain on the BBWAA ballot? They are retired and their chances of getting in are not being improved. The members of the BBWAA are given a list of instructions to consider when voting and it does not include heavily judging the former players actions now that he is removed from baseball. Furthermore, if a player should be inducted after the first ballot because of what he has done since leaving baseball, then that is not for the BBWAA to decide that, but rather for the Veterans’ Committee.

So then why does a player have 15 years of eligibility? It is because there really is a difference between getting elected on the first year rather than the tenth year on the ballot. By putting down Alomar’s name on the 2010 ballot, it means that those writers believe he deserves to be in the sentence with the greatest players of all time. Is he on the same level with Williams, Musial, Koufax, Mays and Ryan? Hardly.

This is not to bash on Alomar. He would get my vote to be in the Hall – eventually. He was a very good player and certainly boasts a Hall of Fame resume – superb defense, a .300 hitter, a World Series title and five seasons finishing in the top six in MVP voting. But, in my opinion and I believe this sentiment would be shared by most, that does not pace Alomar within the best 40 players in the history of the game.

My ballot this year would not have been empty. While I think that Alomar is “under-due,” there were two players who were overdue – Andre Dawson and Bert Blyleven. Dawson was elected on his ninth year on the ballot and Blyleven missed again on his 13th year of eligibility.

Next year, Blyleven would again be on my ballot. I would have to re-evaluate Alomar’s career, but Alomar would likely get my vote. Alomar is without an eventual member of the Hall, but the discussion of it being insulting to his career to be left off on the first ballot is in fact insulting to other 39 first ballot players who are among the greatest who ever played. 
Posted on: January 23, 2008 8:51 pm
 

Hall of Fame: Who's in and Who's Out

The Hall of Fame selections recently got me thinking about which major league baseball players currently playing will ultimately get the votes for Cooperstown. So, here we go:

This list will only include players who are over the age of 30 and have been discussed will be placed into one of the following categories:
(Note: These categories are meant for a player’s first time on the ballot.)
1. Lock – these players have to only finish their careers with some hint of what they started with and, barring great injuries or scandals, can begin writing their speeches for Cooperstown.
2. On the bubble – these players have to show a little more over their remaining years to get the nod, or get lucky with “weaker” players on the ballot.
3. Need work – these players will have to show improvement and sustained production to have a legitimate chance to make the cut.
4. No chance – these players are thrown around in the discussion simply out of respect to what it takes to be a productive, above-average player in the majors over a sustained career.

Boston Red Sox:
Lock - Manny Ramirez. One of the best hitters of all time, Manny has now compiled nine straight seasons with 30 home runs and 100 RBIs, stats that you have to look back to Foxx and Gerhig to compare with.
On the bubble – Curt Schilling. Some will be surprised to see him here, but he has nothing left in his career that will help his cause. His 200 wins will be tough to overlook compared to those closer to 300, but he is 14th on the all-time strikeout list and has an incredible postseason résumé. Plus he’s friendly with the media.
Needs work – David Ortiz. He will finish with quite a few home runs and a respectable batting average and his postseason efforts speak for themselves, but he was a late bloomer. But, he’s the most beloved man in baseball.

New York Yankees:
Lock – Mariano Rivera. Best reliever of all-time.
Derek Jeter. I hate to say it, but he is a lock, even though I know he is simply a good singles hitter. He’ll finish with 3,000 hits, but little more.
Alex Rodriguez. Will have the homerun and RBI career records by the time he retires.
Roger Clemens. Top 3 greatest pitcher of all time.
Needs Work – Mike Mussina. Moose has racked up the victories in his career, 260, but has little more to show, including no postseason record to speak for.
No Chance – Andy Petitte. Good numbers for a lefty but that will only get you into the starting 5, not the hall.

Baltimore Orioles:
Needs Work – Miguel Tejeda. Big run producer, plays everyday, but has been tainted with steroid accusations and will not put up good enough numbers while in Baltimore.

Toronto Blue Jays:
No Chance – Tory Glaus. His name hasn’t really been mentioned, but he was the best qualified on a poor team.

Tampa Bay Devil Rays:
May have some in the future, but not now when some of them aren’t old enough to have a driver’s license.

Cleveland Indians:
See Devil Rays

Detroit Tigers.
Lock – Ivan Rodriguez. Second best catcher after Bench and his arm still gives basestealers nightmares.
Needs Work – Kenny Rogers. See Petitte.
No Chance – Gary Sheffield. Please, forgetting he is a racist, a cheater, and a ticking time bomb, 500 home runs won’t cut it anymore.

Minnesota Twins:
No Chance – Torii Hunter. His glove is good, but not good enough to put him in the Hall.

Chicago White Sox
On the Bubble – Jim Thome. He’ll have the 500 homers and a great OBP, but too many strikeouts and nothing in postseason. Less in production than Frank Thomas.

Kansas City Royals:
They stink like the Devil Rays, but they don’t have promising futures.

Los Angeles Angels:
Lock – Vladmir Guerro. At 31, lifetime .325 BA and 352 home runs? Yeah, I’d say he makes the cut.

Texas Rangers:
Needs Work – Sammy Sosa. I know you were all waiting for this one, but a .273 lifetime hitter, a steroid-aided number of homeruns and an astronomical amount of strikeouts make it tough to add Sammy. He needs work on his image, not his numbers.
Eric Gagne. Again still young, but if he can add more to his 177 saves and not add much to his 3.20 ERA, he’s got a shot.
Kevin Millwood. Surprised? Complied 130 wins and more than 1,500 strikeouts and hasn’t been with a good team since he emerged as an ace. Highly underated and well liked.
No Chance – Kenny Lofton. As .299 singles hitter, he is less productive than Jeter despite 600 plus stolen bases.

Oakland Athletics:
Lock – Mike Piazza. He can still hit, .309 lifetime BA is very respectable and included in his 421 home runs are the most ever by a catcher, which he played very well defensively. Well respected and any team’s leader.

Seattle Mariners:
Lock – Ichiro. Best contact hitter ever in baseball, would have broken Rose’s hits and Henderson’s stolen base records if he started his career here.

New York Mets:
Lock – Tom Glavine. Unlike 500 homers, 300 wins is an automatic bid for the Hall. Best lefty since Warren Spahn.
Billy Wagner. 347 saves and a lifetime 2.33 ERA he easily makes the cut, and he’s got some years left.
Pedro Martinez. Often compared to Koufax, but his numbers are better. 206-92 is the best active percentage, and you have to go back before Koufax to find one better. Throw in 3,000 strikeouts and a career active best 2.81 ERA and Pedro is one of the best ever.
Needs Work – Moises Alou. Life time .301 BA and had some big RBI years, but it’ll be tough, even with an easy class.
No Chance – Carlos Delgado. Still a feared hitter, but he won’t reach 500 big ones and just barely has a .280 lifetime BA.

Atlanta Braves:
On the Bubble – Chipper Jones. One of the best switch-hitters of all time, but he’ll need a few more years like the one he is having now.
John Smoltz. I know many would have him as a lock, but remember who is voting him in. A lifetime record of 203-142 may sound impressive, but he had a lot of .500 years, although 3.26 career ERA is impressive, as is the fact he’s the only man with 200 wins and 150 saves.
Needs Work – Andruw Jones. He’ll finish with close to 600 home runs, but a .260 batting average and a mess of K’s make him an extremely unlikely choice.
Tim Hudson. Still young, but an impressive lifetime record and a decent ERA, but he needs to continue to produce.
No Chance – Julio Franco. We love him because he’s 57 and still chugging, but no where near the production.

Philadelphia Phillies:
See Devil Rays

Washington Nationals
See Indians, Rays, Phillies

Florida Marlins:
Do I sense I trend?

Chicago Cubs:
Needs Work – Alfonso Soriano. He’ll been in the 400-400 club when he retires, and maybe the 500-500. Decent BA, but he definitely needs to sustain his production and have more years like last year’s 40-40.

St. Louis Cardinals:
No Chance – Jim Edmonds. His production has significantly tapered and is no longer a 40 homer guy. Only way Edmonds name will be in the Hall is the videos of greatest catches.

Milwakee Brewers:
None now, but I can't wait to see what an infield of Braun, Fielder, Weeks, and Hardy will be able to do in a few years.


Pittsburg Pirates:
It may be a while before a Pirate makes it to the Hall.

Cincinnati Reds:
Lock: Ken Griffey. This is one of the easiest. The best five-tool player since Willie Mays, and the most talented person to play the game.


Houston Astros:
Lock: Craig Biggio. He racked up his 3,000th hit and even though his numbers aren't overwhelming, he still has 288 home runs to go with 414 stolen bases. Plus he has the major league record for the most times hit by pitch with 285. Ouch.
Needs Work: Lance Berkman. At 31, he has 241 home runs and a smooth .300 BA. He needs a couple more solid seasons now that he's in his prime, but he is a great switch hitter.
Needs Work: Carlos Lee. Some people think he is a late bloomer, but he's similar to Berkman. He has put up 30+ home runs consistenly for a while now and has a respectable .287 BA, but like Berkman, he needs to put up some big numbers in his prime, and increase his contact hitting.

San Diego Padres:
Lock: Trevor Hoffman. All-time leader in saves at 510 and he is not done yet. He'll finish with close to 600, and will be the only pitcher in the Hall of Fame who has never started a game.
Greg Maddux. Mad-dog is one of the easiest on this list. With all of the commotion about Clemens, Maddux has compiled an astounding 340-211 career record, his 3.10 ERA is the second best among active pitchers, and his 3,237 strikeouts puts him 11th on the all-time list.
Needs Work: David Wells. He'll need a lot of help from the people on the ballot with him, but his 235 wins is seventh all-time for lefties, and 2,181 to 710 strikeout-to-walk ratio is as good as it gets.

Arizona Diamondbacks:
Lock: Randy Johnson. He needs 16 wins to reach 300 and has be jockeying with Clemens for the second spot on the all-time strikeout list. He's the only one who has rivaled Nolan Ryan when he racked up 364, 347, 372, 334 strikeouts in the '99-'02 seasons.

Colorado Rockies:
Lock: Todd Helton. Even though he plays at mile high Denver, his lifetime BA of .331 and .584 slugging percentage are sickening. He'll finish with 3,300 hits, 400+ home runs and is a perenial Gold-Glover at first base.

Los Angeles Dodgers:
On the Bubble: Nomar Garciaparra. Some people may have thought that Nomar had fallen of the face of the baseball world, but he still has a .316 lifetime BA. Don't expect the balloters to forget Nomar's great years in Boston when it looked like he was the next Ted Williams.
Needs Work: Luis Gonzalez. He is a long way off since his 57 home run season in '01, and even though his number are respectable, .284-342-1374, its not enough.
Jeff Kent. Kent has been a baseball malcontent long before he was with the Giants and his career never really peaked the way it should have. Above-average numbers for a few seasons won't get this headcase into the Hall.
No Chance: Jason Schmidt. A good ERA and 1750 strikeouts, but a lifetime 128-94 record show the string of poor teams he has been on.

San Francisco Giants:
Lock: Barry Bonds. Yes, I did save the best for last. Bonds, hate him or hate him, is still a first-ballot Hall of Famer. The only player ever with 500 home runs and 500 stolen bases is also first all-time in walks and holds a phenomenal .444 OBP (third all-time) to go along with a .607 SLG (fifth all-time), and, if he ever retires, will be first in home runs and runs scored, not to mention the single season home run record, a lifetime BA of .298 and eight Gold Gloves. Steroids or not, baseball is a number's game, and the numbers say he's in.
On the Bubble: Omar Vizquel. With just a .275 BA and a long career to speak for, it remains to be seen whether his glove will make him the second player put in the Hall on the first go-round for defense.

Players not yet 30:

Pujols
Zito
Oswalt
Posted on: January 23, 2008 8:51 pm
 

Hall of Fame: Who's in and Who's Out

The Hall of Fame selections recently got me thinking about which major league baseball players currently playing will ultimately get the votes for Cooperstown. So, here we go:

This list will only include players who are over the age of 30 and have been discussed will be placed into one of the following categories:
(Note: These categories are meant for a player’s first time on the ballot.)
1. Lock – these players have to only finish their careers with some hint of what they started with and, barring great injuries or scandals, can begin writing their speeches for Cooperstown.
2. On the bubble – these players have to show a little more over their remaining years to get the nod, or get lucky with “weaker” players on the ballot.
3. Need work – these players will have to show improvement and sustained production to have a legitimate chance to make the cut.
4. No chance – these players are thrown around in the discussion simply out of respect to what it takes to be a productive, above-average player in the majors over a sustained career.

Boston Red Sox:
Lock - Manny Ramirez. One of the best hitters of all time, Manny has now compiled nine straight seasons with 30 home runs and 100 RBIs, stats that you have to look back to Foxx and Gerhig to compare with.
On the bubble – Curt Schilling. Some will be surprised to see him here, but he has nothing left in his career that will help his cause. His 200 wins will be tough to overlook compared to those closer to 300, but he is 14th on the all-time strikeout list and has an incredible postseason résumé. Plus he’s friendly with the media.
Needs work – David Ortiz. He will finish with quite a few home runs and a respectable batting average and his postseason efforts speak for themselves, but he was a late bloomer. But, he’s the most beloved man in baseball.

New York Yankees:
Lock – Mariano Rivera. Best reliever of all-time.
Derek Jeter. I hate to say it, but he is a lock, even though I know he is simply a good singles hitter. He’ll finish with 3,000 hits, but little more.
Alex Rodriguez. Will have the homerun and RBI career records by the time he retires.
Roger Clemens. Top 3 greatest pitcher of all time.
Needs Work – Mike Mussina. Moose has racked up the victories in his career, 260, but has little more to show, including no postseason record to speak for.
No Chance – Andy Petitte. Good numbers for a lefty but that will only get you into the starting 5, not the hall.

Baltimore Orioles:
Needs Work – Miguel Tejeda. Big run producer, plays everyday, but has been tainted with steroid accusations and will not put up good enough numbers while in Baltimore.

Toronto Blue Jays:
No Chance – Tory Glaus. His name hasn’t really been mentioned, but he was the best qualified on a poor team.

Tampa Bay Devil Rays:
May have some in the future, but not now when some of them aren’t old enough to have a driver’s license.

Cleveland Indians:
See Devil Rays

Detroit Tigers.
Lock – Ivan Rodriguez. Second best catcher after Bench and his arm still gives basestealers nightmares.
Needs Work – Kenny Rogers. See Petitte.
No Chance – Gary Sheffield. Please, forgetting he is a racist, a cheater, and a ticking time bomb, 500 home runs won’t cut it anymore.

Minnesota Twins:
No Chance – Torii Hunter. His glove is good, but not good enough to put him in the Hall.

Chicago White Sox
On the Bubble – Jim Thome. He’ll have the 500 homers and a great OBP, but too many strikeouts and nothing in postseason. Less in production than Frank Thomas.

Kansas City Royals:
They stink like the Devil Rays, but they don’t have promising futures.

Los Angeles Angels:
Lock – Vladmir Guerro. At 31, lifetime .325 BA and 352 home runs? Yeah, I’d say he makes the cut.

Texas Rangers:
Needs Work – Sammy Sosa. I know you were all waiting for this one, but a .273 lifetime hitter, a steroid-aided number of homeruns and an astronomical amount of strikeouts make it tough to add Sammy. He needs work on his image, not his numbers.
Eric Gagne. Again still young, but if he can add more to his 177 saves and not add much to his 3.20 ERA, he’s got a shot.
Kevin Millwood. Surprised? Complied 130 wins and more than 1,500 strikeouts and hasn’t been with a good team since he emerged as an ace. Highly underated and well liked.
No Chance – Kenny Lofton. As .299 singles hitter, he is less productive than Jeter despite 600 plus stolen bases.

Oakland Athletics:
Lock – Mike Piazza. He can still hit, .309 lifetime BA is very respectable and included in his 421 home runs are the most ever by a catcher, which he played very well defensively. Well respected and any team’s leader.

Seattle Mariners:
Lock – Ichiro. Best contact hitter ever in baseball, would have broken Rose’s hits and Henderson’s stolen base records if he started his career here.

New York Mets:
Lock – Tom Glavine. Unlike 500 homers, 300 wins is an automatic bid for the Hall. Best lefty since Warren Spahn.
Billy Wagner. 347 saves and a lifetime 2.33 ERA he easily makes the cut, and he’s got some years left.
Pedro Martinez. Often compared to Koufax, but his numbers are better. 206-92 is the best active percentage, and you have to go back before Koufax to find one better. Throw in 3,000 strikeouts and a career active best 2.81 ERA and Pedro is one of the best ever.
Needs Work – Moises Alou. Life time .301 BA and had some big RBI years, but it’ll be tough, even with an easy class.
No Chance – Carlos Delgado. Still a feared hitter, but he won’t reach 500 big ones and just barely has a .280 lifetime BA.

Atlanta Braves:
On the Bubble – Chipper Jones. One of the best switch-hitters of all time, but he’ll need a few more years like the one he is having now.
John Smoltz. I know many would have him as a lock, but remember who is voting him in. A lifetime record of 203-142 may sound impressive, but he had a lot of .500 years, although 3.26 career ERA is impressive, as is the fact he’s the only man with 200 wins and 150 saves.
Needs Work – Andruw Jones. He’ll finish with close to 600 home runs, but a .260 batting average and a mess of K’s make him an extremely unlikely choice.
Tim Hudson. Still young, but an impressive lifetime record and a decent ERA, but he needs to continue to produce.
No Chance – Julio Franco. We love him because he’s 57 and still chugging, but no where near the production.

Philadelphia Phillies:
See Devil Rays

Washington Nationals
See Indians, Rays, Phillies

Florida Marlins:
Do I sense I trend?

Chicago Cubs:
Needs Work – Alfonso Soriano. He’ll been in the 400-400 club when he retires, and maybe the 500-500. Decent BA, but he definitely needs to sustain his production and have more years like last year’s 40-40.

St. Louis Cardinals:
No Chance – Jim Edmonds. His production has significantly tapered and is no longer a 40 homer guy. Only way Edmonds name will be in the Hall is the videos of greatest catches.

Milwakee Brewers:
None now, but I can't wait to see what an infield of Braun, Fielder, Weeks, and Hardy will be able to do in a few years.


Pittsburg Pirates:
It may be a while before a Pirate makes it to the Hall.

Cincinnati Reds:
Lock: Ken Griffey. This is one of the easiest. The best five-tool player since Willie Mays, and the most talented person to play the game.


Houston Astros:
Lock: Craig Biggio. He racked up his 3,000th hit and even though his numbers aren't overwhelming, he still has 288 home runs to go with 414 stolen bases. Plus he has the major league record for the most times hit by pitch with 285. Ouch.
Needs Work: Lance Berkman. At 31, he has 241 home runs and a smooth .300 BA. He needs a couple more solid seasons now that he's in his prime, but he is a great switch hitter.
Needs Work: Carlos Lee. Some people think he is a late bloomer, but he's similar to Berkman. He has put up 30+ home runs consistenly for a while now and has a respectable .287 BA, but like Berkman, he needs to put up some big numbers in his prime, and increase his contact hitting.

San Diego Padres:
Lock: Trevor Hoffman. All-time leader in saves at 510 and he is not done yet. He'll finish with close to 600, and will be the only pitcher in the Hall of Fame who has never started a game.
Greg Maddux. Mad-dog is one of the easiest on this list. With all of the commotion about Clemens, Maddux has compiled an astounding 340-211 career record, his 3.10 ERA is the second best among active pitchers, and his 3,237 strikeouts puts him 11th on the all-time list.
Needs Work: David Wells. He'll need a lot of help from the people on the ballot with him, but his 235 wins is seventh all-time for lefties, and 2,181 to 710 strikeout-to-walk ratio is as good as it gets.

Arizona Diamondbacks:
Lock: Randy Johnson. He needs 16 wins to reach 300 and has be jockeying with Clemens for the second spot on the all-time strikeout list. He's the only one who has rivaled Nolan Ryan when he racked up 364, 347, 372, 334 strikeouts in the '99-'02 seasons.

Colorado Rockies:
Lock: Todd Helton. Even though he plays at mile high Denver, his lifetime BA of .331 and .584 slugging percentage are sickening. He'll finish with 3,300 hits, 400+ home runs and is a perenial Gold-Glover at first base.

Los Angeles Dodgers:
On the Bubble: Nomar Garciaparra. Some people may have thought that Nomar had fallen of the face of the baseball world, but he still has a .316 lifetime BA. Don't expect the balloters to forget Nomar's great years in Boston when it looked like he was the next Ted Williams.
Needs Work: Luis Gonzalez. He is a long way off since his 57 home run season in '01, and even though his number are respectable, .284-342-1374, its not enough.
Jeff Kent. Kent has been a baseball malcontent long before he was with the Giants and his career never really peaked the way it should have. Above-average numbers for a few seasons won't get this headcase into the Hall.
No Chance: Jason Schmidt. A good ERA and 1750 strikeouts, but a lifetime 128-94 record show the string of poor teams he has been on.

San Francisco Giants:
Lock: Barry Bonds. Yes, I did save the best for last. Bonds, hate him or hate him, is still a first-ballot Hall of Famer. The only player ever with 500 home runs and 500 stolen bases is also first all-time in walks and holds a phenomenal .444 OBP (third all-time) to go along with a .607 SLG (fifth all-time), and, if he ever retires, will be first in home runs and runs scored, not to mention the single season home run record, a lifetime BA of .298 and eight Gold Gloves. Steroids or not, baseball is a number's game, and the numbers say he's in.
On the Bubble: Omar Vizquel. With just a .275 BA and a long career to speak for, it remains to be seen whether his glove will make him the second player put in the Hall on the first go-round for defense.

Players not yet 30:

Pujols
Zito
Oswalt
 
 
 
 
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